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#1: A Child Spirit Calls On Me For Help Author: autman, Location: Maryland

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:50 am
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Hi all

I had my deck made 3 years ago, and when they were putting in one of the post they hit something hard.
The contractor used a jack hammer to break it up.
I really think that is when all this paranormal stuff started happening.
I took a picture of it, and really didn't think about it any more,
When all the paranormal stuff started going on in my basement it was all concentrated to one area of that room.
No other part of my house do I have any Orb pictures,or did the electronic toy's come on by there self's.

Then I did the EVP recording and that same statement came out on several different AM frequency's like 14 different times saying " Go Fishing And Find Fredrick " .
You can hear the recording on GHOSTSAMONG US EVP Forum it is called:
EVP's From Autman's I Think A have Talking Spirits Ghost In My Basement.
Well fishing means to go looking for something I guess.
Then I thought jeez what if it has something to do with that thing they hit when they put the post on my deck.

The next day I started digging, and believe me I'm in no shape for digging.
I have a crippling and possibly terminal neurological disorder called autonomic neuropathy.
But some how I was compelled to keep on digging.
The weather was nice and my wife kept bringing me water.
Over the past few day's I can hardly move but each day is getting better.
That's it for me no more digging.

On Friday June 12th I finished the excavation of what I originally thought was some old barn foundation.

This is what I found

Here are some of the artifacts I found

I'm not sure about this but it could be a piece of human remains ?

Just yesterday Sunday June 14th I found what could be Gold. It was found in the soil at the end of the structure. See What you think is this Gold ?

Ok now what is it, Some say it is a water trough,or a security vault,or a cemetery vault for a 4 or 5 year old child.
Please keep in mind that the ground was 2 feet higher before they dug it out for my house,and it looks like 2 feet of the walls has been knocked off to make it ground level. So the original would be 2 feet deeper.
Tomorrow the Montgomery County Historical Society in the state of Maryland is sending over a archeologist to look at it.
Maryland is just outside of Washington DC.
So I guess I will find out then.
My gut feeling is it is the resting place of a small child by the name of Fredrick.
He had come into my basement 2 weeks ago shown up as a Orb.
I had put out toys for him and he has been playing with them turning them on 5 or 6 times a night and even sometimes during the day.
I know many don't believe in Orbs but look at the next few pictures and see what I have to show you. This is who I believe is Fredrick.
This was the last pictures I took.

I drew a circle around the face of who I believe Is Fredrick.

This one I zoomed & adjusted the lighting.

Ok now here is the face that I saw on a chair in my basement sorry put it showed up in a orb. Look at the round button nose on both pictures.
I think they are both Fredrick.

If You need to remove this picture I will under stand, but I just had to show the comparison that I feel is relevant to this spirit.

The last picture is of the circle image under the glass table you can be the judge of what this is.
I also can not explain why this misty fog showed up in the other pictures but it is what it is.

FYI The weather on Friday June 12th was great.
The Picture was taken exactly at 5:30 PM .
My wife kept saying how nice it was that day.
According to the weather channel data .
At 5:05 PM It was Partly Cloudy 85°F Humidity 48% Wind From NNW 13mph
The ground was was fairly dry, and it is shady under the deck.

I sure hope we will find the answer to what this thing is by the Archeologist on Monday June 15th.

I'm still hoping that it is nothing more than a water trough.
I really don't like the idea that some little kid was in that thing right out side my home.
Keep this in mind even if it's original intention that this structure was to be used for something else that does not rule out that it could be used for something bad.

I have not told anyone else in my family for fear they will not want to come here and visit.

Well that's it I am now waiting for the Archeologist to show up and tell what he thinks this structure is.

I will give you a update as soon as possible.

Thank You

Autman

#2: Re: A Child Spirit Calls On Me For Help Author: Gerry, Location: Good Ol' Blighty

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:57 am
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The pictures you have taken are great, thanks for putting them up. The stone object sure does look like either a small coffin or trough, but the more I look at it, the more I am leaning towards a small water trough. I will be interested to see what the historical society make of it all.

I must admit, I am not a big fan of orbs...although some of them have me stumped, well the sort that move about and seem to be 'intelligent' for want of a better word.

Please send in a full report when you have the historical society's opinions.

#3: Re: A Child Spirit Calls On Me For Help Author: autman, Location: Maryland

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:03 am
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Hi Gerry

Thank you for your response.
I hope you are right on it being a through not a vault.
I have a lot of video to look through to see if there is any spirit movement.
I will let all know as soon as I hear something.

Autman

#4: Re: A Child Spirit Calls On Me For Help Author: Ruby, Location: England, UK

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:46 pm
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How interesting! My first thoughts were that it was an animals water trough. I would have thought that if it were a tomb that the top edge would have been smoother to accommodate a lid better. But I'm itching to know what the archaeologist makes of it.

I've never seen gold in its raw form so haven't got a clue if that's what it is, but it does seem very much like pyrites which is commonly known as 'fools gold'. Either way, a nice find!

I'm going to dismiss the orb, and I really can't see a face, but it's all very interesting none the less.

Sorry to hear about your ill health ... I hope you're gonna put your feet up now!

#5: Re: A Child Spirit Calls On Me For Help Author: gwinni, Location: Lancashire, England

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:51 pm
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That stone container looks old, and I think it's a bit small to be an animal trough. I don't like to think about the alternatives, though. Shiver. Shocked

The mist in those pictures is interesting, as it's localised to the area around the container. I hope further investigation throws useful information up. In the meantime, as Ruby says, take care, and rest up! Wink

#6: Re: A Child Spirit Calls On Me For Help Author: autman, Location: Maryland

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:35 pm
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Hay Ruby
The Inside measures 1 foot 11" wide and 3 feet ft 11" long.
Now it is only 1ft 2" deep, but I'm almost positive that there was at least another 10" that was knocked off so that they could put grass sod down on my lawn when my house was built in 1949.
According to my neighbor the cut out almost 2 feet of ground so I could have a walk out basement.
That would mean that would make it over 3 feet deep.
A three foot deep water trough could never stay clean all kinds of algae & bacteria would build up in no time.

Now as far as the Mist goes did you see a face in there.
If not look for a round button in the center of the circle I drew.
That would be the nose now look for the eyes and the rest should come together.
I think that is the boy Fredrick.

Now to back all this up
The name came from the EVP it was said over 14 times with more than 5 frequency changes in 8 hrs.
For some one to get the same EVP message over 5 different frequency's that many times must be unheard of, but I have all 8 hrs of recording to prove it.
He said " GO FISHING AND FIND FREDRICK "
Now that is what I have been doing and it is really and I mean it literally
It is paying off .
That area were the mist and face was is exactly the spot were if it is real.
I have found almost one half a ounce's of gold.

Now some one please explain to me how all this could be happening.

Autman

#7: Re: A Child Spirit Calls On Me For Help Author: Ruby, Location: England, UK

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:17 pm
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Hi Autman. Sorry I don't see a face, just the natural texture and patterns in the soil. Also, I don't believe the pale patch is mist. It looks more like a patch of light reflection that the camera hasn't dealt with too well. Probably caused by the reflective surface of the glass table would be my guess.

I understand what you're saying about the height. If that's the case then yes, a water trough does seem unlikely. Can't wait to hear the archaeologists verdict!

#8: Re: A Child Spirit Calls On Me For Help Author: autman, Location: Maryland

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:48 pm
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Hi Ruby
Please humor me here for a moment I know your probably going to say this is nothing more than dirt ball matrixing, but let me show you what I see.

I fixed him up with glasses and ears now don't laugh.
Ok here he is

Alright now with out glasses.

Are you ready Ok here's Freddy !

Allright so he looks a little ruff on the edges,
but come on he has been dead for over 100 years .
After that don't you become one with earth or something.

You do see him now Right !
Thank's

Autman

#9: Re: A Child Spirit Calls On Me For Help Author: Gerry, Location: Good Ol' Blighty

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:08 am
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Hi autman, like Ruby, I don't see a face but just the natural mixturem of soil, rocks and stones, which often give the impression of human features. There are some really cool explanations about how the brain interprets natural objects and immediately turns them into human features. I have often been fooled!

More than anything, I am really waiting on the report from your historical society...maybe you should do an extensive search on your property, what was there in the past 100 years or so.

I am waiting patiently here for good reports!

#10: Re: A Child Spirit Calls On Me For Help Author: Ruby, Location: England, UK

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:41 am
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autman wrote:

Hi Ruby
Please humor me here for a moment I know your probably going to say this is nothing more than dirt ball matrixing, but let me show you what I see.

I fixed him up with glasses and ears now don't laugh.
Ok here he is

Are you ready Ok here's Freddy !

Allright so he looks a little ruff on the edges,
but come on he has been dead for over 100 years .
After that don't you become one with earth or something.

You do see him now Right !
Thank's

Autman

HA,HA,HA,HA! You are funny Autman! Very Happy

I wish I could agree with you, but I'm afraid I don't. Now that you've marked the positions of the eyes, nose and mouth, I can see the pattern that you're referring to. But it doesn't look like a true face, just matrixing. I get the feeling that you have such a strong belief that Frederick is around (and he well may be ... I'm not disputing that!) that your imagination is working overtime here with the photo. No disrespect meant. We all act the same when we feel strongly about something.

#11: Re: A Child Spirit Calls On Me For Help Author: autman, Location: Maryland

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:33 am
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HI
Hay no disrespect taken here.
I'm just trying to lighten up the situation at hand.
I have never hoped I was more wrong on something in my life.
I mean come on what person in there right mind would want a dead kid living out of a grave right out side of there back door.
But with all respect to the many who have worked hard studding the paranormal world.

We have to keep a very open mind on what we find in the spiritual world of the unknown.
Were there are so many possible and impossible questions that we have to answer.
Were there are no real boundaries or guide lines to follow, and were the only real experts are those who caught between the two worlds of life and death.

How a spirit chooses to communicate with a any particular human being also has no boundaries .

Take this only as possible example.
What if David Copperfield had passed on and his spirit was trying to communicate with you.
How would you be able to tell if he was real or if it was just magic trick.
Maybe it was just a illusion, or a apparition , matrixing, camera flair,faces in Orbs, gut feeling, delusion or what ever.
Just how could you tell how David Copperfield would be communicating with you.
A spirit could very well be using the orb or matrixing or illusion or draw a message in the dirt or sand to communicate with us.
trying desperately to communicate with you.

To me the real answer is we do not know what avenue they choose to communicate with us, and as far as I know there is no Ghost Rule Handbook for them to follow either.

So I guess the only way to know for sure is to be dead' and I'm in no hurry to take that road to find out.

I was told by a administrator of a paranormal website that there is no such thing as a expert paranormal investigator.
To use the word expert and paranormal in the same sentence would be a oxymoron.

The bottom line is this we are all entitled to our own opinions on what we see and don't see.

The most important thing is that we try to keep a open mind , and respect each other for that opinion.

Which you have always done to every one on this website, and I personally want to thank you doing that.

Let us all keep a open mind and see what the Archeologist has to say what that box is , and then we can all have some fun and maybe learn a little history, and also have a better understanding of the paranormal world at the same time.

Also the girl that was suppose to get me the Archeologist turned out to be bad Sunday help.
I stopped back there yesterday June 15th and got the right number for The Montgomery County Archeologist Office, and left a message for them to call me.
So I have to wait until they call me back to find out what is next.

Ruby thank you again .
I like to think that we are all part of a paranormal team her at GHOSTAMONGAS US , and you are are our # 1 best leader of that team.

Autman

#12: Re: A Child Spirit Calls On Me For Help Author: Ruby, Location: England, UK

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:56 pm
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Ah, bless you Autman! Patty is our real #1 but I appreciate your sentiment.

I totally agree with you that there is no such thing as a paranormal expert, and that it's important to be open minded. However, I also think it's important to use logic to a large degree. With orbs for example, when camera manufacturers themselves admit that orb production is an inherant flaw in the design of digital cameras, and also bearing in mind the fact that orbs didn't even exist (or extremely rarely) before digital cameras. It makes giving them any attention nonsensical in my opinion. So we should be open minded yes ... but realistic also.

#13: Re: A Child Spirit Calls On Me For Help Author: autman, Location: Maryland

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:01 pm
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Hi all
I'm still waiting for the Archaeologist to call me back and to look at what that structure is at the back of my house.
I have been collecting all types of objects from around the structure, To give to them when the show up.
So much for getting Rich.
The gold turned out to be fool's gold.
I used my metal detector to find the gold spot, but did not think to re check it to see if it was real. I got no reading for metal of any kind. So it must be fool's gold.
The spirits have been relatively quiet but also so have the storms. Today I spent most of the day sifting trough the dirt looking for any clues . I did find some brick and stove pipe, also got several samples of animal & what looks like human hair, a jaded bead, and a small plastic toy horse which was just below the ground surface.
It was probably dropped by the previous owners kids.
I was thinking maybe it is a fireplace ash pit ?.

Well as soon as I hear something new I will let you all know.

Autman

#14: Re: A Child Spirit Calls On Me For Help Author: Quiet-one, Location: Boston, Massachusetts, USA

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:19 pm
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Part of this "foundation" as you call it, has been broken out, probably from when they built your house. It does look like a sarcophagus to me because there are indentations on the short ends that look like they are designed to hold something like knobs on the bottom of a sarcophagus lid, so it cannot slide off. Look carefully, you'll see what I mean. I think it very well may be a child's grave. I also think the "gold" is, indeed, pyrite, but perhaps it is more a symbolic gesture of riches. I hope you took pics of the artifacts in situ (i.e. in place, before you took them out of this object) so the archaelologists can reconstruct where everything was lying. If you didn't make notes and try to remember where everything you found was. Some of that DOES look like bone, but it's not necessarily human. Let us know what the archaeologists said! I'd love to hear it.

#15: Re: A Child Spirit Calls On Me For Help Author: Quiet-one, Location: Boston, Massachusetts, USA

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:28 pm
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And to add my two cents to the orb discussion...... I SEE orbs all the time, live, flying around me and hovering in the air. Sometimes I manage to get pics of them when I see them. 90% of all orbs in digital pics I take ARE dust/moisture, yes. But when I see them with my eyes then snap a pic I know it's an orb. For real. And I have four orb pics taken with a polaroid camera in 1972, you can see my cat watching them. So I debunk what I can but what I SEE...is what I see. And most times when I see them I hear voices talking to me or I get touched, bumped, jostled and pulled on. Not real pleasant. : Smile

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